Oh, I will tell you what a wonderful evening it is when you can read something like this which I have copied here for you, our readers. I was truly carried away for an hour or two as I read this latest message by my favorite author and teacher Preston Eby. I wept as this dear saint described, with such a Heavenly anointing, that which many of us have been experiencing. Truly the Lamb of God has arisen within us and is now ripping the seals off the books that we are. This, I am sure is why so many of us have been groaning so deeply of late. Our great hope is that our long preparation is soon to be over! The worthy Lamb within, is pulling the seals off and opening us up for soon the world to see that the fullness of the Word and the Spirit has been made manifest in Jesus' younger brothers and sisters.
We thrill to share this wonderful message with you,

Jack & Joian



“And I saw in the right hand of Him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals” (Rev. 5:1).

The book is “written within” — that is, the nature, wisdom, and power of Christ, which is the law of His life, is inscribed in our minds and written in our hearts, known only to God and to us. It is also “written on the backside” or outside — bespeaking the reflection of that inner life expressed outwardly through our words and actions, open to the gaze of others. Yet the full revelation of Christ in us has been sealed! Every son and daughter of God is aware that the Christ who dwells in us is a whole Christ, all that He is and all that He has is resident in the life we have received. Have we not yearned and desired above all things to manifest His fullness? And still, the full and complete manifestation of His indwelling life has not been shown. The breaking of the seals, the unrolling of the scroll, shall set all things in God’s order! This book has been sealed away from the influences of men. It has not been tampered with by man, for it has been held secure in the right hand of the Father, the hand of omnipotence. Our almighty Father has been in control of every experience of our lives as He has moved to bring us to the full stature of Christ! When every seal has been broken, and the book is fully opened, it will confound all the wisdom of men and the pride of religion.

In the past we have by inspiration and revelation spoken the message of God, but now we are destined to be the open book of God, the very being of the message of God, written not in words of earth’s languages, but lived out of the essence of the Christ-life within. The book is not in some far-off heaven somewhere, neither is it something outside of us. Nothing written by the hand of man can contain the totality of God. Ah, my beloved, the sons of God are within themselves the embodiment of this wonderful book upon the hand of Him who sits upon the throne! The book that has been sealed within us is even now being unsealed and opened. What is it that is being unveiled? The totality of the Father in His sons is now ready to be made manifest! The Lord Himself is arising in the totality of all that He is within the nature, personality, and expression of His called and chosen elect upon this earth! All mankind shall see and behold the salvation of God!

One of the most beautiful books of the Old Testament is the Song of Solomon, which describes the relationship between two people who are deeply in love. While this is its imagery, spiritual-minded saints throughout church history have seen in the story a thrilling picture of Christ, the Bridegroom, and His bride, the church. Individually, it portrays Christ the Bridegroom in our spirit, and the bride of our soul. How fitting, therefore, are the words in which the Shulamite bride declares that her Beloved is “altogether lovely” (Song of Solomon 5:16). A great preacher of another day penned the following thought-provoking sentence about our Lord Jesus Christ: “Not one feature of His glorious person attracts attention at the expense of others; but He is perfectly and altogether lovely.” Continuing, he exclaimed, “Oh, Jesus! Thy power, Thy grace, Thy justice, Thy tenderness, Thy truth, Thy majesty, and Thine immutability make up such a man, or rather such a God-man, as neither heaven nor earth hath seen elsewhere…Thou art music without discord; Thou art many, and yet not divided; Thou art all things, and yet not diverse. As all the colors blend in one resplendent rainbow, so all the glories of heaven and earth meet in Thee and unite so wondrously, that there is none like Thee in all things; nay, if all the virtues of the most excellent were bound in one bundle, they could not rival Thee!” Can we not confess it? The truth is that the manifest sons of God are the body of the Bridegroom. In making that statement, I am fully aware that such a thought runs contrary to long-established views of “theology”; but as George Hawtin once poignantly said, we are not concerned with the views of theology, for theology is not really the views of God but the ideas of men. We are concerned only with the truth of God as it is revealed in His word in the light of inspiration and revelation. Every son of God will gladly and joyfully confess that CHRIST IN US IS — ALTOGETHER LOVELY! This is the beauty, holiness, grace, love, wisdom, glory, and power that is unveiled as the seals are loosed from that book which we are!

Oh yes, the book is Christ Himself, for Christ is the revelation of the One who sits upon the throne! Christ is the Word of God. The book is a Word-Book! The book is a message, and Christ is the message of God. “God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, hath in these last days spoken unto us by His Son…” (Heb. 1:1-2). Yet — it is not merely Christ in heaven, but Christ in you and me! The sealed book is the very nature, wisdom, glory, and power of Christ held back and obscured by the outer man of flesh, by our natural identity and human consciousness, until the seals are broken!

The book is sealed with seven seals. Seven is the number of completeness — the seven seals bespeak of the total depravity of the natural man. Paul said it so well, “I know that in me, that is in my flesh, there dwelleth no good thing” (Rom. 7:18). “For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: but I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members” (Rom. 7:22-23). “Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be” (Rom. 8:7). The Adamic nature is a hellish nature and shut tightly against the spirit of God. It must be broken, loosed! It always seemed a little strange to me that such an act as loosing the seals brought so much woe, calamity, judgment, and distress on earth, yet it evoked such rejoicing, jubilation, worship, and all-out adoration in heaven! To the natural mind this appears rather offensive, malevolent, and sadistic. Indeed, heaven rejoicing over the pain, anguish, and torment of men on earth!

The truth, however, is far too telling, glorious, and overwhelming for us to miss it. The truth is just this — the seven seals are the bondage of the flesh and it is this complete imprisonment of the Christ within by the dominance of the consciousness of the outer man of flesh that is suffering all the dealing, judgment, and fire of God! These are the seals that are being broken! Rejoice, oh man of spirit, rejoice ye heavens and they that dwell therein! How my glad heart leaps for joy in the light of a truth so significant and glorious! I cannot weep for the natural man, even my natural man, the carnal mind, or the sin which wars in my members. At long last I understand and rejoice in the heavens of God’s Spirit for the mighty revelation of Jesus Christ that emanates with scintillating beauty as the seals of my very own corruption are stripped away! What a word that is!


“And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?” (Rev. 5:2).

The Greek word translated “proclaiming” is related to the task of a herald who thunders forth a royal declaration in thunderous tones. “Loud voice” is in keeping with the strong angel’s role as a herald. In fact, the Greek words for “loud” and “voice” are joined together to form our English word “megaphone.” Mega means “loud” and phone means “sound.” It represents a mighty message! The powerful angel is portrayed as speaking in tones that are so overwhelming that his words reach the ends of heaven, throughout the earth, and even into the underworld. In spite of his deafening appeal there is no answer, as we shall see, from any celestial, terrestrial, or subterranean creature. None is worthy, for none can qualify!

With these thoughts as a background, let us consider the scene in the heavens of God’s spirit as it is revealed in chapter five of the Revelation. The eternal Father, seated upon the rainbow-encircled throne, is presiding over the mighty assembly. The majesty of that scene is beyond words! In the midst of the great throne are the four living creatures, representing the kingship of the sons of God; and around them are the twenty-four elders, portraying the priesthood of the sons of God. In the right hand of the Father is a book. It is written on the inside and also on the outside. A mighty angel, a strong messenger, a mighty message steps forward and challenges the entire universe. “Who is worthy to open the book,” he cries, “and to loose the seals thereof?” His voice shook the earth and penetrated all space and galaxies; it resounded through heaven.

Mark you, “who is worthy,” not who is skillful enough or wise enough or strong enough, but who is worthy, who has character enough, who has drunk deep enough at the fountain of the eternal Spirit, who is enough like God, to unlock the secrets of divine life? Will one reach forth to take the book? Will thousands of men and spirits and creatures rush madly to the throne to grasp the book? Who can take the book? All heaven is searched. Might seraphim, cherubim, or angels open those seals? Or perchance might Enoch, Noah, Abraham, David, or Elijah present themselves as worthy to fulfill this need? Might one among the saints who “by faith” are among “the spirits of just men made perfect” step forward? Might some advanced and powerful alien entity from some far distant galaxy respond to this challenge? Earth is searched. Might some president, king, or great statesman or religious leader perform this great deed? The search is dropped to the regions “under the earth.” Might Caesar, Napoleon, or Nero or other of earth’s mighty dead presume to offer themselves? But every mouth is stopped! “No man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.” The suspense is awful. John’s tender heart is moved to tears.


“And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open the book, neither to look thereon” (Rev. 5:3-4).

Although the sound of the heavenly messenger’s voice resounds throughout all of heaven, the high and holy realm of the spirit; throughout all the earth, the dwelling place of the natural or soulical man; and the underworld, bespeaking of the body realm, the gross wickedness of the flesh and the bondage of the devil, there is no one who is able to qualify as “worthy” to open and to look upon the contents of the scroll. The word translated “able” is the Greek word which means “to possess power or authority.” Nowhere in all of God’s vast universes was there found a creature who was authorized or empowered of God to open the book and bring forth the revelation of life that it contains! No man can open the book! No man! No carnality. No one by intellect or human reasoning or fleshly ability. No person moving in a religious spirit, or proclaiming a creed or doctrine, or observing outward laws, ceremonies, rituals, or man-made programs, promotions, and efforts could open the book. Not one!

It is a good thing that this book was not opened here in Texas because we have a whole passel of preachers who say they can tell you what is on the inside of this book, on the outside, and all around it. They have all the answers. If John had just been in Texas, instead of being on the isle of Patmos, they could have given him the answers! Well, John didn’t have the answer, but there is one who can open the book, as we shall see.

I can understand that no man on earth was found able. Some of us who are living way below our privileges in the realm of the earthlies are not worthy, nor capable. I can also understand that no man under the earth, those living in the underworld of the sensual, fleshly, and devilish realm, was found able. But then it goes on to say, “no man in heaven.” No man even living in the heavenlies of God’s Spirit, that place of exaltation, triumph, and power, was found able, not only to open the book, but even to look thereon. In these days of transition from the church to the kingdom the full expression of Christ’s redemption must be made manifest and it begins with the opening of the seven-sealed book — not single-sealed, not double-sealed, but a book with seven seals, written within and on the backside, which means written all over — and HE ALONE CAN OPEN IT!
Perhaps we have felt that, if God could find a man who would be totally committed to Him, or one that has attained to a high place in God as an apostle, or prophet, His purposes in the earth could be fulfilled. But no matter how dedicated, committed, gifted, and heavenly minded a man may be, no matter what spiritual progress or position or attainment a man may have, when it comes to the unveiling of Jesus Christ in the breaking of the seals which release the forces that will eventually bring about the full expression of God’s glory and purpose, no man was found worthy. This is a word that needs to be heard by all who seek after manifest sonship in this day! As we move into this wonderful new day of the kingdom, and nothing much seems to happen, perhaps we start blaming ourselves, or our teachers, or the prophets, and we ask, “Where is this greater manifestation of the Spirit, this full expression of the power of the kingdom of God? I am not speaking here about healing some sick and casting out some devils and seeing a few things change around us and having some miracles, which in time past we have called “revival.” These things have been taking place throughout the ages, and happen all the time, but by and large the world does not even know they are happening!

We gather in our little meetings and conventions and declare our sonship, that we have entered beyond the veil, that we have arrived in the day of the Lord, that we have come out of religious Babylon and left all the lower orders behind, that we have been set in the new order of the kingdom, that we have even now begun to put on life and immortality, and a number of other wonderful declarations, and yet no one up and down the street where we are gathered even knows that we are in town! The world goes on day after day, month after month, year after year, decade after decade wallowing in shame, bound by sin, sorrow, pain, and death, with wars and starvation and troubles of every kind affecting billions of people. That is not what the day of the Lord is to bring forth: a little moving over here and a little stirring over there, BUT A RELEASE OF THE FULLNESS OF THE POWER AND THE GLORY AND THE LIFE OF GOD OVER ALL THE EARTH. This is the unveiling of the triumphant One, who by His death, resurrection, and ascension to the right hand of the Father has prevailed! And yet we cannot escape the awful truth — NO MAN CAN PRODUCE IT! Not even a man in heaven!

Soon after John saw and heard this scene there was a mighty weeping going on concerning who was worthy to open the book. J. A. Seiss commented on this scene, “Some speak of these tears as mere tears of disappointed curiosity. This, indeed, is the common explanation. We are told that the book had unknown revelations in it, which John was very impatient to understand; and that his much weeping was caused by the prospect of having his personal desire to obtain a knowledge of the future, ungratified. Poor John! What a silly mortal, to be troubling himself about unrevealed prophecy, and to keep up this crying in heaven because there was no one to open the book for him! The thing is absurd. It is beneath criticism. What a sad picture of inspiration, that it should strip a venerable and disciplined servant of God of all manly dignity, and make him a silly and peevish child! No, no; John knew by that Spirit in which he was, what that sealed book meant. He knew that if no one was found worthy and able to take it from the hand of God, and to break its seals, that all the promises of the prophets, and all the hopes of the saints, and all the preintimations of a redeemed world, must fail.”

The Seer waits in the oppressive silence until he can bear it no longer. Then he breaks down into bitter weeping. The word translated “wept” does not refer to quiet tears streaming down the face, but to audible wailing and uncontrollable sobbing. John is terribly upset because there is no response to the heavenly messenger’s thunderous appeal for someone to open the book, loosing the contents hidden within. His soul is shaken to its foundations as he recognizes that the outcome of all things on behalf of all creation hangs upon the contents of this sealed book! John’s tears, therefore, express his sensitivity in things spiritual, for he realizes that there must come a time when God must mightily intervene in the affairs of men and the whole world or the kingdom of God will never be realized on earth. His longing for that great Day is joined with his longing for the release of the fullness of the power and the glory of God over all the earth. Hence the awful sense of frustration expressed in weeping when no creature responded to the messenger’s call.

The mystery is just this. John represents you and me! Have we not wept, groaned, and travailed in pain within ourselves for Christ in us to be unsealed, fully revealed? Oh, yes! But the weeping, groaning, and travailing of itself cannot bring forth the Christ. “Weep not!” one of the elders commanded. The elder here referred to is undoubtedly one of the twenty-four who have been identified as representative of the priesthood of God. Notice, the elders do not weep! Only John wept. The elders do not weep for they are in the secret of God, and as the redemptive agents of God the priests of the kingdom understand the process taking place. What was dark to John is light to them! It means that when the reality of priesthood breaks in our spirit, and we are given a priestly heart, and a priestly understanding, our tears are dried. Once the revelation comes, and we know God is in control, and we are certain of the Father’s purpose and our calling in it, and the final outcome is sure, then we truly rest in His love, and weeping ceases. It is indeed wonderful!

John says that there was no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth who was able to open the book. What this means in the understanding of the Spirit is just this: Who is able to reveal, to show forth the Christ? Who is able! And he says, “No man” — matters not what heaven he dwells in, nor what occult realm he works from — no man is able to open up, expose, disclose, release, unveil, reveal, or exhibit the fullness of Christ! Then there came the voice, “Stop weeping! See, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has won and overcome and conquered! He can open the scroll and break its seven seals! And there between the throne and the four living creatures I saw a Lamb standing, as though it had been slain, with seven horns and with seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God who have been sent far and wide into all the earth. He then went and took the scroll from the right hand of Him who sat on the throne” (Rev. 5:5-7, Amplified).

Oh, to be anointed to understand these words of deepest mystery and highest glory! It was the strength of the Lion of the tribe of Judah that prevailed. But it was the humility, meekness, and unselfish sacrifice of the Lamb that accomplished the work! We can roar like a lion, but we will never open the book by that roar. The book cannot be opened, the Christ within can never be revealed, except by the spirit of the Lamb! Nor can weeping open the book. We can weep all day long and it isn’t going to make the book open. In Pentecostal and Evangelical circles they tell you, “Repent! Weep your way through at the altar, come between the porch and the altar and cry out mightily to God.” There is a time for weeping, but you can cry till you turn blue and you will die crying. In the revelation of Jesus Christ God has come to wipe away tears! “And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away” (Rev. 21:4).

WHAT WILL OPEN THE BOOK? Can you open the book? Will lamenting and weeping about the situation open the book? Do you know what John realized? No man can open this book. Weeping won’t open the book. Roaring like a lion won’t open the book. Positive thinking won’t open the book. Confessing won’t open the book. Being heavenly minded won’t open the book. No man in heaven was able to open the book. Are you a heaven dweller? You still can’t open the book! If John could have opened the book he would have. He was standing “in the spirit” on the Lord’s day and “in heaven” when he saw the book! If you could open the book you would. If I could open the book I would. If I could call forth the revelation of Christ, if I could generate and produce the manifestation of the sons of God I would. Oh, yes! But John felt as I have felt many times. “And I wept…” “Boo-hoo-hoo-hoo-hoo! I’m not perfect…I’m still just human…I can’t overcome…I am weak and hopeless…Lord help me…Lord change me…boo-hoo-hoo-hoo!” But that will never open the book!


The messenger said, “Stop crying! Weep not! Stop feeling sorry for yourself! Stop bemoaning the world! Stop feeling hopeless! There is somebody that can open the book!” Ah, beloved, dry your tears and hush your cries — The mighty Lamb of God is standing up within each of God’s elect in this hour, and He is able to open the book!

This book must be opened. This is necessary and imperative for the salvation of humanity and the restoration of all things back into God! The following words by J. T. Dean bear eloquent testimony to the work of Christ within us in opening the seals. “Now, what is the Lamb said to do? He opens the seals of a sealed book. He reads what is already written therein. He brings to actuality a purpose already formed and fixed. He does not introduce something new into the purpose of God. He does not alter God’s will. He unfolds it, realizes it, brings to actuality what God intended from the beginning with regard to man. He does not open a door for man to enter into a new and different life than that for which God made him at first. He carries out God’s eternal purpose respecting man. God set the human race on a journey. He gave it a goal to strive after and reach, even the image and glory of God. But instead of taking the direct road to his destination, man left the path. He began to wander round and round in ways that made no progress, but that led him even farther from the goal than he was when he started. And Christ comes to him while he is thus wandering. He does not give him a new destination. He does not set another goal before him. But He guides him back to the path which he has left, and sets him to walk anew towards his former goal. Or, to take another illustration, God brought man into the world a little child spiritually, but a child that He meant to grow up into a strong spiritual manhood in the likeness of Christ. But instead of growing up to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ, with never a day’s illness to set back his growth, man was afflicted with sickness of soul, with sin. He advances towards manhood through a sickly youth. And Christ, the Great Physician, helps to keep the disease under, reinforces the powers of health, and brings the sickly child through the weakness unto the perfect man. Christ does not help man to become something other than God’s design for him. He helps him to become all that God meant him to be! He opens the seals, and brings God’s purpose to fulfillment” — end quote. To which I would add — the Lamb is the One who opens for all creation the mystery of sonship to God!

Joyce Morris has shared an excellent word concerning the worthiness of our Lord Jesus Christ and His ability to open the seven seals of the book. The following is a quote from her anointed message.

“As you know, many books have been written in the world. There have been awards (like the Pulitzer Prize) given for some of these books. Many have been made into plays and movies. As we know, some of these books are true stories about people’s lives. It’s very interesting that a movie based on a true story, has a greater impact on people’s lives than a fictional story. Every kind of book that you could possibly think of has been written. But the book that we want to get into today is — the Book of Life. We want to enter into the extraordinary understanding of what the Book of Life is — and that you are becoming the Book of Life!

“God has His own book. The book that God has is not the Bible. The Bible has been written from the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, which God has given to man. But this book is to point you to THE BOOK — which is THE BOOK OF LIFE! God wrote the book in the beginning, and in the Book of Life is God’s plan. In the Book of Life there are certain names written. God has written His book and no one can contaminate it. Nobody can put their doctrines into it. Nobody can put their beliefs, ideas, concepts, or anything else into it. Man will never be able to contaminate the book that God has written!

“God is the author of His book. In His book He wrote His plan with many scripts. God’s book is the Book of Life, which is Christ Himself. ‘And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us.’ God wrote His plan, and nobody can change His plan. However, you can change the script — and I will get into this later on. I want to talk about the first individual that had the understanding that God had written His book. He also understood that his script had been written, and that God had written every one of his days in His book. All the days of his life had been written in the Book of Life! When Jesus came into this earth, every one of His days had been written in God’s book. He is the book. The Book of Life came, the bread from heaven came, THE WORD (BOOK) WAS MADE FLESH! He had to walk out the script and the plan of God on earth. He only tried to change it one time. He learned obedience through the things that He suffered. I know that He struggled with the script for a while! I know that He was tempted in every area, just like you and me. But He passed all the tests, and overcame all the temptations. He said, ‘It is written…’ — it is written in my Father’s script — it is written in my Father’s plan — I cannot do that — I cannot yield to my self-will — I will not change the script — I must follow the plan of God, because I came to do the will of my Father!

“So here He is — The Book. Each day of His life was unfolding. Everything that God had written in the very beginning was unfolding. His days were unfolding. His experiences were unfolding. Each day and each experience took Him from one place to another, all the way to the cross. He followed the script; He looked at it; He understood it; and He yielded to the Father to walk out that script. He walked out the plan of God. Hebrews 12:2 says, ‘…who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross.’ He endured the cross because of the joy that was set before Him — because He had the understanding that as He fulfilled the script and walked out God’s plan each day of His life, He wasn’t going to be just one book, He would go on to be many books!

“When the people killed Him, they thought they were getting rid of The Book. But they couldn’t get rid of the script that God had written! No man can stop it! Jesus could have stopped it in the garden of Gethsemane, but He yielded to the Father, and said, ‘Not my will, but thine, be done.’ He did not yield to His self-will, but He yielded to the will of God, to bring a fulfillment to the plan of God, the script that had been written for Him. No one could change Jesus’ destiny except Jesus. But He didn’t change it — He fulfilled it by walking it out. Even after all this, His life still wasn’t over. The book wasn’t finished yet! He wasn’t the flesh man Jesus anymore, but if you can understand — here He is, the Book of Life, walking in the earth and everybody was looking at it, and reading the Book of Life! They were looking at and reading the Book of Life every day, and they saw what was in it. What they saw was God! This upset and angered many people. They hated the book, because it went against their book. It was against their lives, what they believed in; it was against their governments, their religions, and everything that they stood for, because they loved death more than they loved life!

“Jesus said, ‘This is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil’ (Jn. 3:19). Again, ‘The people which sat in darkness saw a great light’ (Mat. 4:16). They saw the book coming and it had light and life in it. The very life of God was walking and moving in Christ! And God was enjoying every bit of it! He said, ‘I finally have an individual that is yielding to my will, my plan, my script. He is studying my script every day. He is waiting upon the Holy Spirit to direct His path, so that He can walk out what I wrote from the foundation of the world.’

“When Jesus looked within in the garden of Gethsemane, He saw that God had written before the foundation of the world that the Lamb would be slain. It had already been written — but until that time Jesus didn’t have the full picture or understanding of what was going to happen on the cross. He had known it, He had understood it, and He saw it take place — before the foundation of the world, because the Father had shown it to Him. But the man Jesus had lost the full understanding of this event when He came into His flesh body on earth.. In Gethsemane He came into the full realization of what was going to happen to Him on the cross. He saw what He would suffer; the hatred and rejection that would come against Him; but He did not want to miss the script that God had written — He had to walk it out and fulfill even this part.

“The Father showed Him in Gethsemane that through the cross He was coming into a higher place, realm, or state of being. He showed Him that He was going to bring the entire creation BACK INTO THE BOOK! This is the reason He knew He had to fulfill the script. He also knew that this wasn’t the end of The Book. He knew that His life would continue throughout eternity in the hearts and lives of many people! They thought they had gotten rid of Him. But He came back on the day of Pentecost, and the Book of Life began to enter into many men — a many-membered corporate body — THE BOOK OF LIFE IN MEN!

“In chapter five of the Revelation we see a book in the right hand of the Father. The book had seven seals, and no man was found worthy to open the book. But I want to tell you — there was One that could open it, and He was the Lamb that was slain! The book with the seven seals is the sons of God that God had written before the foundation of the world. The seven seals are the perfection and completeness we are to come into, in God. God wrote this script; and He wrote your script in the very beginning! Jesus was the only one worthy to loose the seven seals and open up The Book because He had walked out and fulfilled all that God had written of His sons. After He had opened the seven seals, why do you think that immediately it talks about those that have been redeemed by the blood of the Lamb, and that He has made them kings and priests to rule in the earth? Because He is talking about the OVERCOMERS. And the overcomers are THE SONS OF GOD! (Rev. 21:7). The overcomers are those who will be perfected in every area of their life. This is why it is presented as “seven seals” — seven means completeness and perfection!

“So in the book that Jesus opens up are the scripts that God wrote for the sons of God. He wrote it in the very beginning. He wrote all the days of your life in the Book of Life in the very beginning — before the foundation of the world. He wrote everything that you would experience in your life to bring you to the point where you now are IN CHRIST! And all of these experiences that the Father wrote for you to walk out were to work the Book of Life into you, so that you would become the Book of Life! This is why Jesus said, ‘Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day…he that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him’ (Jn. 6:54,56). Jesus knew that to eat of His flesh is to eat of the Book of Life; and that the Book of Life is within, where man cannot contaminate it, cannot touch it; and the script is God Himself in man! He has written it! Every time you go within and seek God for His divine counsel, instruction, and understanding, you are reading and coming into an understanding of what the Father wrote before the foundation of the world. He is enlightening it to you from within so that you can walk it out!

“Christ is the only One that can open this Book of Life because He walked it out. He walked out God’s script and God’s plan. In the natural, when an individual writes a play, he spends a long time thinking it through. I don’t know how long God spent thinking about His plan. I have no idea what it entailed — His plan is so awesome! When you start walking in God’s script the life within will swallow up all death. It will swallow up any darkness. It will swallow up everything in you that is not like God. God will swallow you up into Him — in the Book of Life! We need to understand that we are here to be the fulfillment of God’s plan! We are not here for our own purpose, we are here called according to His purpose! God’s purpose is for His plan to be fulfilled in this day, and in this hour, in each and every son of God!” — end quote.

In chapter four of the Revelation, every description of Christ is of Christ in His deity, Christ as God, sitting on the throne, the eternal Lord, God Almighty. But when we look at chapter five we find that every description of Jesus is Jesus in His humanity — the crucified One, the Lamb slain, the Lion of the tribe of Judah. It was the humanity of Christ that was of the tribe of Judah. It was the humanity of Christ that was crucified. It was the humanity of Christ that died — the Lamb of God. The things seen by John are symbols, pictures, terms of accommodation to help us understand the mystery. You see, my beloved, the true and full revelation of God could not come to man until it came in the man Jesus. Through His sinless life, through His sonship walk, through His death, burial, and resurrection God in man overcame sin, limitation, death, hell, and the grave. Through this wonderful work God took everything that was in deity and raised it up in humanity! Therefore the Lamb is worthy! He is worthy to take the book! He is worthy to open the seals! He is worthy to raise up in mankind the full revelation of God in man! Jesus the Lamb, Jesus the Man, taking the book out of the hand of the Father, is just a picture of this transferal of divine, incorruptible life and glory from the realm of pure spirit into the world of humanity! It is in and through Jesus the Lamb that this has been accomplished! Isn’t it wonderful!

Who is worthy? In the natural there is none worthy. But when we begin to look into the spirit we see that there is One that is worthy. The One who has prevailed to open the book is the Lion of the tribe of Judah — that signifies Jesus Christ in strength and victory. This Lion is a slain Lamb — for He conquers not by brute force but by the power of His poured out life! The wonder of it is that THIS LION-LAMB IS WITHIN US! The worthy One is within! When we begin laying hold upon the One within us, the One within us begins unsealing the book within. Out of that unsealing comes the triumph of the Christ in every dimension of our lives. He makes war against every false and fleshly thing that there might be the revelation of Jesus Christ in us. There will be the expression of what is true in us coming forth into manifestation in our outer realm. It is not a nature that ignores the corruption of our outer man of flesh — it is a nature that is fully capable of dealing with the corruption of the outer man that the spirit be revealed. Oh, that our eyes be opened to behold HIM! HE is worthy to open the book, now to fulfill in us all the reality of our redemption! It is the Christ within who opens the seals, and it is the Christ within who is the book revealed. In absolute power He shall reign until the Christ is fully and forever formed in us, formed from the inner to the outer — the image of God!

There was a day when a man could arise and be used of God, but in the book of Revelation it is the Lamb who is used. He must be the central One, releasing the fullness of the Spirit of God in all His majesty and power from within. Even though we are kings and priests and have authority to reign on the earth, we are not worthy to open the book, neither to look thereon. Recently I felt a deep cry in my spirit and I said to God, “There is nothing more that can be done. I know of no prayer that can be prayed, no faith that can be exercised, no knowledge that can be revealed, no action that can be taken to bring forth the manifestation of this sonship, this is as far as we can go.” There comes a time when our pressing into the kingdom does no good. There is no one in heaven, nor on earth, nor in the underworld that has the ability to even look upon the book, much less to open it. Here is a realm that is shut up to God Himself! It is the spirit that quickeneth, the flesh profiteth nothing. The fullness, the life, the immortality, the manifestation of power and wisdom and glory will never come until we first see the One who is triumphant, even the slain Lamb, the One who is central to the purposes of God and the One who has the seven horns of power, the seven eyes of omniscient vision, and the seven spirits of God. Many “sonship” preachers and teachers apply every scripture and revelation to themselves, to the many-membered body, ignoring completely the Head of the body. But our Lord Jesus Christ is the rightful One to look upon, the One who is worthy to look upon, to loose the seals, to open the book, to bring forth the manifestation of God’s nature, glory, and power out of our lives, and then to receive all the honor and glory and praise. “Thou art worthy!”

It is God who has highly exalted Jesus, and given Him the name that is above every name in heaven and in earth! If you live in heaven today, my brother, my sister, Jesus bears the name that is above your name! At the name of Jesus every knee shall bow and every tongue confess. And what shall they confess? That JESUS CHRIST IS LORD, to the glory of God the Father! If Jesus has been given THE NAME that is above EVERY OTHER NAME, would it not be proper to say that this puts Jesus in a prominent position, to say the least? No other man who ever lived or does live has occupied such prominence as this! There is absolutely no other person who has been exalted so high! And notice, my beloved, it is not at the name of “Christ” that every knee shall bow and tongue confess. It is not even at the name “Lord” that they shall bow. It is not at my name, or your name, or the great apostle Peter’s name, or the mighty Paul’s name, nor yet at the name of the “cosmic Christ” or the “Christ consciousness” or someone’s “higher Self.” Oh, no! It is at the name of JESUS that every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess! (Phil. 2:6-11).

Jesus was placed so low in the estimation of His own creation that they cried out saying that they would rather have Barabbas, a robber and a seditionist turned loose, than to see Jesus free. Because of that, God has highly exalted Him above all others! (Phil. 2:6-9). He is the real, true, and perfect revelation of God, the true God-man. He was the very man that God set forth in our midst to be the perfect revelation of the man that He has purposed for each of us to be, and we are predestinated to be conformed to the image of God’s dear Son. He is the Forerunner, the Captain of our salvation, and the Apostle and High Priest of our profession. Never forget it! Worthy is the Lamb that was slain! He is worthy to open that book which you are, and He is worthy to open that book which I am. And no one else can do it!

Truly the Lamb was slain for us two thousand years ago. Yet, is it not true that the Lamb in us is likewise being slain, for we are partakers of Christ’s suffering as the apostle said, “Even now I rejoice in the midst of my sufferings on your behalf. And in my own person I am making up what is still lacking and remains to be completed of Christ’s afflictions, for the sake of His body, which is the church” (Col. 1:24). The slaying of Jesus as the Lamb on Calvary is historical fact, and by that slaying He purchased us with His blood and has made us kings and priests unto God. That’s the historical fact. Yet, I do not hesitate to tell you that the thing that will be worthy in our own experience is for us to experience the slaying of the Lamb within ourselves! The Lamb must not be merely historical, for the Lamb is in the midst of the throne where we are seated in Christ! The Lamb in the throne is a slain Lamb! He is slain, and yet He is standing! Oh, the mystery of it! You see, the Lamb must become a present experiential reality. As we experience the slain Lamb within ourselves, we will discern the One standing in us who is worthy and has power to open the book of His life within us!

With the above thought in mind, I will close this message by sharing a testimony from our dear brother Bennie Skinner which so beautifully expresses the truth of which I now speak.

“Forty years ago a minister got me into his car. This was a minister I had labored with in the gospel. I won’t mention his name, because I don’t want to embarrass him, and I’m sure that what he did God ordained, but it was not very nice and I didn’t appreciate it, but I took it. He got me in his car and he ‘read my title clear.’ He told me things about myself that I didn’t even know! In fact, he told me things that I still don’t believe he saw, but he thinks he did. He told me my faults, failures, weaknesses, mistakes, errors, and shortcomings — I mean he laid it on! I sat there as a sheep before his shearers is dumb, I opened not my mouth. When he finished, he said, ‘Now that I’ve gotten this off of my chest, maybe you have some things you would like to get off of your chest, too.’ I responded, ‘I have nothing to say.’ No defense, no accusation, no denial, no retaliation — nothing. I just got out of the car and dragged myself up the driveway and up the stairs into our apartment.

“When I walked in the door my wife took one look at me and said, ‘What has happened?’ I told her. But I didn’t defend myself. I went to bed and went to sleep. I wasn’t angry — but I was hurt. I was killed. Yet I fell asleep. In my sleep I had a dream. I saw a lamb hanging by its feet upside down. It had been skinned, its head cut off, and all the insides had been cleaned out. I saw the process of it done. Then out of that, after the process was completed, came the most beautiful music I have ever heard! When I awoke I was filled with the Holy Spirit and I knew that God had showed me something. The Lamb in me, in that sense, had been slain! Through that experience that I had the Lamb had been slain. And as a result of that, in retrospect I now understand that even then one of the seals was ripped off of this book that I am!

“I’ve had a few other experiences since then that I think may have torn off a seal or two! And no doubt I will have some more experiences that will finish tearing off the seals so that what is written within may be clearly read and known of all men. Can we not see that when the Lamb is slain within us, it brings the release of the nature of the Lamb within us! I’m telling you something that is profitable for you today. I’m telling you something of the deep working of God in your life. It is the slaying of the Lamb! And let me tell you this — ‘Worthy is the Lamb that is slain — not just was slain, but is slain — to take the book and to loose the seals thereof.’ We are coming to the place even now where we are experiencing daily in our bodies the dying of the Lord Jesus that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our flesh (II Cor. 4:10).

“I am stirred today at the depth of what I am talking about. I don’t think that I even know myself the depth of what I’m speaking of, I think I am speaking by the Spirit that is beyond my understanding, beyond my experience even, beyond my ability to comprehend, but God is going to make it real to all of us. And we will come to the place where we embrace that cross and we will bless that cross upon which we daily die, upon which the Lamb is slain within us, for out of that experience shall come forth resurrection life! So don’t try to run from anything, because the thing God is after will be there when you get there anyway. God will be able to set up just the right circumstances to get all that thing He is after — to reveal His Son in you and as you. Amen!”


I had read this message by Chip a year or two ago and then it floated across my computer screen tonight carrying more meaning. I have met a few of these "prophetic savants" Chip writes of and I always looked forward with appreciation as to learn what they were seeing. Their demeanor was never a problem with me as I knew it was part of the package and also part of the cost they paid as they were intolerably starved for more of God. I have an acquaintance like this, that I would run across on a forum or two. He posted sporadically and with little patience for much of the nonsense he saw in others. His messages were always right on and carried a depth I understood. Douglas just posted a new message on his site after a long absence and it is a worthwhile reading if any would be interested. This is the link:

I smiled when I saw Eliya mention "sloppy agape" in a forum post today. I know she will appreciate this message by Chip and also the one linked above by Douglas. These writings are a long distance from the "sloppy agape" so many of us disdain. Also in closing I want to mention that we just listed Florian's blog within our side bar. He is sharing some great things there and we know they will bless you. May we always keep it real.

Jack & Joian

The Prophetic Savant
by Chip Brogden

sa-vant' (n.): 1. a mentally defective person who exhibits exceptional skill or brilliance in some limited field; 2. a person who is highly knowledgeable about one subject but knows little about anything else.

"...the prophet is a fool, the spiritual man is mad..." (Hosea 9:7).

"What then is genius? Could it be that a genius is a man haunted by the speaking Voice [of God], laboring and striving like one possessed to achieve ends which he only vaguely understands?"

A. W. Tozer

(*The use of the male pronoun in this writing is for convenience only. We mean no partiality to our brothers, and no disrespect to our sisters.)

The prophetic savant is a person afflicted with a heavenly autism, making him nearly incapable of normal relations with those around him. Accused of being aloof, cold, and distant, he is apt to hide himself from people, withdrawing into a world of his own. He never seems to be all "there". Even if he forces himself to come down to Earth for a moment, those around him may have the sense that there is an unspoken dialogue going on somewhere inside of him, a secret communion carried on beneath the surface that never allows him to be fully "in the moment".

How do we explain this? As a prophetic savant he sees, hears, and relates to the world differently than the rest of the population. They have not seen what he has seen; they have not heard what he has heard. And so he finds very little camaraderie, very little sympathy or understanding, no one with whom he can open his heart and share his soul, because he no longer speaks the same language, and they no longer speak his. Of course, he may have surface-level exchanges with anyone: he is approachable, not haughty, or high-minded. He may even be personable and likeable. Yet there is something so other-worldly in his demeanor that he is more often frightening than friendly, in spite of his best efforts. He is a spiritual autistic, and no matter how hard you try to know him, he is generally unknowable, and to a certain degree, he resists all attempts to know him.

If a prophet is anything, he is extra-terrestrial - above the Earth. He walks the Earth with others, but he is not of the Earth. He is from beyond; he is from above. If we trace his history we will find that he may or may not have had a normal childhood. He may or may not have come through extraordinary experiences. But at some point in his life, either as a child, or as a young adult, or as an old man, something from another realm broke through the thin membrane between Heaven and Earth and took hold of him. It may have been a burning bush, or a Voice crying out to him from beyond the veil, or a Heavenly Vision which brought him briefly into contact with something and Someone that he could not completely fathom.

However it happened, for one moment at least, the clouds parted and the veil was rent, and he saw something that is unseeable; he heard something that is unhearable; Heaven itself was opened up to him, and he saw into another world. The thing he saw and heard now burdens him like a mantle that has been draped over his shoulders. He feels its weight, for it is with him day and night, whether he is eating or drinking, working or resting. It is the impression that everything around him is a lie, and what he has seen and heard is the Truth, and this Truth is not static, but it is living, growing, and increasing within him from the day it comes to him in the form of a seed.

For a long time he struggles to find words and vocabulary to express the inexpressible. He cannot explain why he feels the need to try and express it, but for some inexplicable reason something drives him to open his mouth, or take up his pen, and make it known. Whatever it is, it will not permit him to savor it or keep it to himself, and it seems intent on coming to the surface and interrupting the normal course of his life. This process can be frustrating and painful, so much so that he may give up several times, content to simply walk in what he has seen and heard and leave it at that.

But try as he might, he cannot run away from what he has seen and heard, and he cannot deny the compulsion to bring it forth. On the one hand he cries out for a "normal" life, while on the other hand he knows he cannot deny what has been revealed to him. When he does achieve some modest success in articulating something of Heaven he is pleased for a time, but soon grows impatient with it, and eventually is dissatisfied with it altogether, because it cannot do justice to what he has seen and heard. And so the process begins again, the continual search for words to more perfectly express what he is trying to communicate (and a subtle fear in the back of his mind that he may never be able to adequately express it), which leads him to invent words which may have never before existed, or to look for Spirit-inspired words in some unknown tongue that can be translated into something others can understand.

The prophets of old correctly called it the "burden of the Lord", for it is like a woman who must live the rest of her life being in perpetual labor, delivering the same child over and over again. What relief there is only comes in discharging the burden, but that is not to say it ever really leaves: it merely allows the prophet time to catch his breath until the next contraction doubles him over again. The burden is with him the rest of his life, and he never fully discharges it.

Even when he tries to be disobedient to the Heavenly Vision and flees from the presence of the Lord he is pursued and hunted down like some kind of a wild animal who has gotten loose, knowing it is only a matter of time before he is captured again. The Voice never leaves him, the Vision never lets him go. When he refuses to speak then the fire which is already kindled only burns hotter, until he ends up doing what he has resisted doing all along, just to relieve himself of the unbearable tension and inward pressure. He cannot extinguish or quench the fire no matter what he does, he can only be obedient and find temporary relief, until the next word comes, and then off he goes. He may beg God to send someone else, and may protest his inability to speak, or to write. But he is already ruined for anything else, and even when he denies the Lord Who called him and returns to his former occupation, it is all dull and lifeless, and he meets with nothing but frustration and failure. There is no way to escape it. He knows he is called to something Higher, even when he is clinging with everything he has to something Lower.

Like a wild horse, he resists the dealings of the Lord and must be broken before he will obey. Eventually he learns not to resist the Lord, but to cooperate with Him. He becomes pliable and bendable in order to survive. His very life now is bound up with what he has seen and heard. He cannot be disobedient to the Heavenly Vision, and if it means he dies, then he dies. If it means a renunciation of everything he once believed, then he renounces it - reluctantly at first, then cheerfully. If it means suffering the loss of all things, then he lets them go.

Over time the one who has seen and heard becomes the very essence of what he has seen and heard. The Man becomes the Message. He bears the Testimony in himself, and becomes one with it. He needs no preparation to speak; indeed, preparation does nothing to help the message he brings, and it often gets in the way. His whole life is the preparation, and since he is the Message, it is with him constantly. He can no more separate himself from the Message than he can separate his head from his body. If there is an "On/Off" switch then it was long ago turned on and then disabled so that it can never be turned off again. After many seasons of God's dealings he finally perceives that this is what the Lord has sought for all along, not just to GIVE him a Message, but to MAKE him a Message; to gain for Himself a Messenger and capture him completely, embossing the Message into his very being.

And so he goes about his daily business, constantly haunted by that Voice, torn between the menial task at hand which calls for his physical and mental exertion, and the Higher Calling which seeks his undivided attention. He knows he should do all things, great and small, as "unto the Lord". But he also knows that Heaven and Earth are locked in mortal combat over him while he stands there in the middle, torn between the two, desiring to depart the Earth altogether and be with Christ, but knowing that it is more profitable for his brethren if he remains. Heaven calls him to rise up, but Earth tells him to keep his feet firmly planted. His heart is constantly breaking and longing to go, to ascend, to rise up, to stop seeing through a dark glass, and see face to face, without the distraction of the natural, the fleshly, the temporal, because he knows the Earth is not his home. Yet he struggles with the fact that Earth is where he must live and work. This accounts for why he may sometimes seem difficult to be around.

As a savant he possesses insight and skill which others do not possess. But it is a gift, not anything of himself, nothing of which he could boast of. If you were to ask him if he considers this to be a blessing, he would probably say it is more like a curse, because it sets him apart from others even when he tries his best to be hidden and to blend in. He cannot read the Scriptures as others do, for after only a few verses the Heavens are opened up to him again and he is lost in its depths. A single passage may keep him occupied for months as Heaven unfolds it to him, and he cannot tear himself away from it.

His preaching is affected, because he cannot decide in advance what he will say, and even when he would like to bring forth something new and exciting, he usually ends up saying the same thing, like, "Repent!" He often does not say what he wants to say, and does not say it in the way he would like to say it. If he wants to be serious, he finds himself laughing. And when he wishes to be friendly, he finds himself screaming at the top of his voice to a startled congregation of people, who wonder how this fellow was ever allowed access to their inner sanctum in the first place. When he leaves a place he almost never sees the result of his labor, and only eternity can reveal the true significance of what was said. For now, it is all hidden, and he has to live with the fact that his fruitfulness will never be measured in terms that human beings, including himself, can see and appreciate.

He cannot go through the motions of religion like most mortals. It is a dead, shallow thing to him because it cannot compare to the reality of what he has already experienced. He finds it difficult to listen to another person preach when he knows they have not yet ascended to the heights nor plumbed the depths that he has already navigated. And when he tries to lead them into these heights and depths himself he is often misunderstood or rejected altogether. So either he attends the meeting and suffers in silence, or stays home and suffers in solitude; but either way, he suffers.

His seeing is affected by a sort of "spiritual dyslexia". While others view things from a one or two dimensional viewpoint, he sees them through several dimensions at once - forward, backward, reverse, upside-down, right-side up: life and death, light and dark, Spirit and flesh, Heavenly and Earthly - which often puts him at odds with his more pragmatic and doctrinally-correct brethren. He is so at one with what he has seen that he speaks of it as having already happened, because he has, in essence, already experienced it and lived it. It is the Prophetic Tense, which calls those things that be not as though they were. In his world, the world of the Spirit, they exist already. We call it "prediction" because we cannot yet see it with our natural eyes, but he simply stands outside of Time and views Past and Future as one unbroken and continuous Present.

His hearing is affected so that he is increasingly sensitive to his surroundings, even though it seems as if he is not paying attention. He is listening, but he is listening inwardly. He no longer trusts his natural ears, because the Heavenly Voice and the inner witness are more reliable. Thus, he is able to hear God speaking, while the rest of the crowd says, "It thundered!" or "It was an angel!" He is also able to hear when God is not speaking, and does not get carried away with the multitudes who claim to speak, see, and hear things from God when they have not heard or seen anything from Heaven. He cannot bear to listen to them.

His concentration is affected in such a way as to make him appear obstinate and unyielding to others. The truth is that he is actually quite flexible and pliable before the Lord, but before man he is as solid and impenetrable as a rock. No amount of persuasion or argument from man will move him - but the slightest touch from the Lord will bring him to his knees. Having discovered the One Thing that is needed, he will tenaciously and ruthlessly shun the "many things" which crowd in to seek his attention, for he sees everything else as a distraction. Indeed, he is quite willing to sacrifice the good in favor of the holy. And when the Lord has him focused on a particular thing he is as a beam of light fastened upon a singular point until everything melts before it.

Even his praying is affected, for he can no longer pray as he wills and for what he wants. He seemingly has no will of his own. Instead the Heavenly Voice bids him to pray with a Heavenly perspective, and all too often the Heavenly perspective is at odds with the Earthly perspective. So when his brothers and sisters pray for blessing and increase, he finds himself praying for destruction and decrease; and when they are resisting and praying against something, he finds himself asking God to perform the very thing the rest of the world is against.

To the rest of the world, the autistic savant is a bit of a retarded genius, an unfortunate mixture of idiocy and brilliance, caught up in a world of its own. The prophetic savant bears a similar stigma. But if you engage him at all, you soon discover that he sees all of this as absolutely normal; the way it is supposed to be. He no longer wishes for a normal life, because the life he has now IS normal: he has lost his own life in exchange for a new life. He lives in the Heavenlies while he walks on the Earth. He does not think of himself as special, as anything other than a regular person, but often wonders aloud why others cannot see what he has seen when it is all so self-evident and plain. To him, maybe; but the rest of us are blinded by the Light he exudes without knowing it.


Well Joian arrived in Jackson after bamboozling half of Idaho's Highway Patrol. She drives fast and they tried twice to catch her to no avail. We will try and find an alternate route home circumventing Idaho when she leaves. Other wise her vacation would probably be extended with a couple weeks in the clinker.

We spent a relaxing evening on the porch yesterday and today we're heading out into the wilderness where Joian says she wants to pet all the big animals. This woman is a wild one so please pray for me keeping in mind, that up to this point, I have built a pretty good name for my self in this community.

YOUR HEART; "Does He Have All the Pieces?"

For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God. 1Cor 1:18

Well who else had a hell of a day, yesterday. LOL I know it was a real woozy for me but such is the way of the cross. I know there is a hurt that makes us very tender to the Spirit. How often I think of and find comfort in the verse from Isaiah describing Jesus as "a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief." So it was yesterday, as I found respite from my fear and resulting pain by residing in Him who knows perfectly my frame. The elect are saved "by means of death" (Heb. 9:15 & 27), not from death. That is how "life" comes "out of the ground". So it is with me as I died a little more this week and He was raised a little higher. If any of you are suffering His Cross today I pray this message might encourage you to find tender respite and comfort in the Father's bosom.

I wrote this out (below) some weeks ago and felt led to post it on the blog today. I'll tell you from the depths of my being, "if you are camped out under the cross I want to encourage you to remain as long as it takes. So many have fled the crucified life but to those that remain I am so humbled to call you brother, sister and, even more meaningfully, His son!

I shared some months ago, that the second death occurs when we are "born again" by the unction and regeneration of the Holy Spirit. This is where we die to our old Adamic sin nature as it is replaced by Christ's essence which is sinless and pure. This is not as the organized church teaches a one time deal but our second death is progressive in nature until we grow into the full stature of Christ.

"Precious, costly, valuable and rare in the sight of the Lord is the death of His saints." Ps. 116:15

This death spoken of by the Psalmist is, I am sure, on the deepest level, the "second death", a painful death but a most glorious death and all shall go through it. The pain and suffering is on this side of the Cross while joy and glory is realized on the other. Even today there is a company of saints that are being torn from the temporal things of this world as they are reduced to Christ. Upon waking in the morning until the last thought before a night's sleep their minds are stayed upon Jesus. It is to those of you I write tonight, and to others I pray you shall soon know of such a state.

How often in the last few weeks have I glanced at the title of Joian's latest message on her "My Church" blog. With each take there is something that stirs within my spirit that says, "Yes, for those called as sons in this age this is His present work and our end."
The title reads, "If He Should Slay Me, I Will Praise Him........"

Many that name Christ would think the thought of being slayed by God as the last thing they would want. However those dear souls that have been called to taste of His wine press and stand in the fiery furnace of His love even desire such. The overcomer knows the old man with it's soulish sinful nature must be slain that Christ might fill them anew with His full Glory and Love. This is a day by day thing and often even an hour by hour experience as the soul painfully dies and, then through Christ, is gloriously and joyously raised up in Newness of Life.

Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Rom 8:35-39

I believe if you are of the account above, as a sheep for slaughter, your heart is steadily being rent and then made soft that He might write upon it's walls His purpose of judgement, mercy and sacrifice due all creation. I speak of the sacrificial Cross of Christ through which all creation is judged as fallen and then mercifully raised to the heighth of His Heavenly Throne. With the setting of the last day's sun we will realize all things subdued under His feet. All things will have been judged as fallen and in His merciful sacrifice of Himself, Christ will have filled all with His full presence, resurrection glory and eternal love. Some of us have been given a glimpse of such a magnificent finale for creation and our hearts yearn and groan for such. Accompanying this glorious glimpse is also an oft present reckoning pain as we hear deep within out spirit the chorus of groans from all of dieing creation. Today all that is of this fallen world stands on tiptoe with necks stretched, yearning for it's release by the coming of Christ in His sons. Along side that burden of painful groaning comes also an ever growing view of heaven on earth. This ever growing perception of Eden restored and increased, brings with it a most glorious supernal hope that beckons us onward no matter the cost. We are God's captives and we intimately share the reproach and sufferings of our Lord and Christ. We share such, because before us has been set the reward of His glorious Peace and Love established within all creation as His everlasting government takes shape.

For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, Isa 9:6,7

If you are like me, you know He is also tearing down and destroying the governing forces within us. As the "Kingdom of God dwells within" the establishment of Christ's rule is being established first within. For those with a single eye for Christ and whose hands are stayed upon the plow there are often great inward wars waged as the rule of Adam's iniquitous rule is laid to waste.

As you pay the cost of possessing all of Him, who gave Himself for all of you, I suspect you like me of late might have felt pretty cut off and impotent as far as the power of God, with signs following. I copied this from Eby as it succinctly speaks to God's purpose and ways within our lives today and how our hearts desire reaches for such.

If our pursuit of sonship and kingship and priesthood contains any element of desire for a future, for greatness, for a name, for recognition, for power, for SELF we have not yet come to the altar of burnt offering, nor have passed through the consuming fire of God. O Father! Draw us to Thy Tabernacle door. Help us to offer there our offering, ourselves. Thou whose love is a fire, burn up and destroy all that hinders or refuses the triumph of Thy love. Consume the sacrifice and convert it into its own heavenly light nature, transform our beings into flames of love! Eby

While so many today are fleeing the work of the Cross in their lives, there is that very hidden remnant, made up of God's elect of this age that have no place to go. For they have been called by Him who has the words of Life. These elect saints are those that find no profit in a temporal escape. They have been given a vision of Eternal realms of God's deepest presence and Eternity's call beckons them onward and out and away from that which shines falsely with it's vaporous substance. These are those that have received the heart of their Elder Brother, Jesus.

In closing allow me to share a couple short messages I read sometime ago. May they be an encouragement to you as they were to me.

The SHATTERED PEOPLE by Joseph Herrin and Delwyn McAlister.

Matthew 21:44 "And he who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; but on whomever it falls, it will scatter him like dust." Mankind has no way of escaping the breaking process of God. Either man will agree with God that he needs breaking, and he will submit himself to this process, or he will resist it and the breaking will be incredibly more severe and without reward. The child of God can choose to fall on the Rock, which is Christ, and be broken, or the Rock will fall on them and they will be scattered as dust. About four years ago I did one of the wisest things that a man can do. I asked for the judgments of God in my life. It was not because I was so wise that I did this thing, but because the Spirit brought me to the point of understanding that all of those who would go further with Him and be accounted as overcomers must undergo a crucifixion of their soul life. The outer man must be broken open to allow the precious life of Christ contained within these earthen vessels to be poured forth .........

A truly consecrated man is a man who has given up HIS FUTURE. He abandons not only his future in the world, but also his so called spiritual future. He no longer has hopes for himself in anything; all his hope is in God. He lives purely and simply in the hand of God. He has no ministry or program to perpetuate, he is what God wants him to be and does what God wants him to do. God can change the order at any time and he will change with it. He clings to nothing, for God Himself is his only hope, his only motivation. Whatever the outcome may be, he does not know and does not care. He only knows that he is a sacrifice, wholly belonging to God. The altar is forever the place where he stands, and a heap of ashes is forever the result. His own will, his own way and his future have been utterly abandoned and do not enter into consideration at all.

Even if the entire glory of Egypt is placed before you, you can say to it, "Goodbye, I must go to Canaan."

Watchman Nee comments on this theme by writing, 'The breaking
of the alabaster box and the anointing of God filled the house with
the odor, with the sweetest odor. Everyone could smell it.
Wherever you meet someone who has really suffered, been limited,
gone through things for the Lord, willing to be imprisoned for the
Lord, just being satisfied with Him and nothing else, immediately
you scent the fragrance. There is a savor of the Lord. Something
has been crushed, something has been broken, and there is a
resulting odor of sweetness'.

Peterus Octavianus, a man greatly used by God in the 1973 revival
in Borneo, reminds us, 'Revivals do not begin happily with everyone
having a good time. They start with a broken and contrite heart'.
Smith Wigglesworth believes, 'You can not take people into the
depths of God unless you have been broken yourself. I have been
broken, and broken, and broken. Praise God He is near to those
who have a broken heart. You must have brokenness to get into
the depths of God'.

'The question is no longer if revival will come, but rather through
whom will revival come? Where are the humble and broken people
who will allow God to birth a mighty visitation through them?
Where are the ones who are willing to empty themselves of their
own agendas and plans in order to become pregnant with God's
vision for revival? Will YOU allow Jesus to break you and use you
in the coming revival? Invite the Holy Spirit even now to fill you with
that kind of all-consuming vision and calling. Yield to the Spirit and
give Him permission to ache, weep and pray through you! Humble
yourself and repent of ANYTHING that would hinder or quench the
Spirit of revival! Ask the Lord to let you feel what He feels about
the state of the Church and the world.

About four years ago I (Joseph Herrin) did one of the wisest things that

a man can do. I asked for the judgments of God in my life. It was not
because I was so wise that I did this thing, but because the Spirit brought
me to the point of understanding that all of those who would go
further with Him and be accounted as overcomers must undergo a
crucifixion of their soul life. The outer man must be broken open to
allow the precious life of Christ contained within these earthen
vessels to be poured forth.

For a number of weeks I thought on this matter, and I clearly saw
that standing between myself and a deeper experience in Christ
was this place of death. My flesh recoiled from what it saw, and
loudly made known its protest. Yet even more pressing was the
desire of my spirit to go forward with Christ. To turn away from
Christ was something I feared even more than physical and
emotional suffering. The thought of falling short of God's will for my
life was the most dreadful thought of all.

This was a watershed day in our lives, and I understood that some
threshold had just been crossed over. Our Father was not long in
answering this prayer. The Spirit quickly began to lead me down
roads that can only be described as the valley of death. For a
period of eighteen months I was subjected to one experience of
suffering after another as the independence of my soul life was
dealt with. Many were the instruments of death during this process.
I was cast out from my place of ministry in the body of Christ when
I refused to compromise in obedience to God. I was rejected by
family members and saints alike. My family went through a
stripping process from all of the things of the world. Things I had
accumulated in disobedience through debt were all removed. Our
path was very painful, even to the extent that my wife said she
regretted ever agreeing to go this way with me, yet she remained

The end of this intense death experience found us living on a street
bearing the prophetic name of Kingsbury, where the King was
separating away and burying the soulish powers that had ruled in
our lives. The community we lived in at this time equally bore a
prophetic name, for it was called "Payne City", and great was our
pain in this place. Never had I felt more vulnerable or helpless than
during these many months of dying. Even as a man on a cross is
unable to deliver himself, so I too was at the mercy of God.

For months my heart felt like it was being torn apart and I wept
many tears in my distress, yet before we had gone far down this
path the Father spoke prophetically to me and said, "Though the
path will seem long and sorrowful, seemingly without end, when it
is over it will seem to have been but a moment in time that passed
swiftly by." As I now look back on this experience, it does appear
to have passed swiftly, and the sting of it is no longer in my
memory. It is like a mighty firestorm has passed over me, and I
am now filled with peace and joy to know that I am still standing,
and I have not been destroyed. The only things that have been
consumed are those things that bound me.

I have no illusions about having been completely delivered from the
evil in my soul and flesh. Even now the Father is doing a further
refining and purifying in my life, yet it is not with the former
intensity that was required to shatter the strongholds that had
gone uncontested for so long.

As I have traveled the path before me the Father has allowed me
to see that there have been many others who have been
experiencing similar fiery trials. I have had the honor to correspond
with numbers of these saints, and it is evident that a brokenness
has come in their lives that is now allowing the sweet savor of
Christ to come forth, when formerly it had been hindered.

*(Please realize that each person will go through different things. For some, instead of 18 months it may be 18 years. For others your 18 months might be one phase, and even harder things may be ahead. Also, the sweet savor you want to see reaching others may not be seen or felt by you as clearly or fully as you desire at this time. Even now you may still be contesting weaknesses and sins in your life but your heart is still pursuing that deeper walk with Him.)

Sadly not long ago on a New Age forum I saw the bitterness arise from one, as she berated me for sharing God's miraculous deliverance and healing to my soul in the midst of a great trial where I had lost a new born son. I knew as this woman bitterly recounted her own loss, she had never gotten over her deep hurt. Soon after I read this quote and I thought how beautiful and how very true.

"It is wonderful what God can do with a broken heart, if He gets all
the pieces." Samuel Chadwick

I pray that you might ever find surrender of all the pieces of your precious heart to Him. May He also give you remembrance of how He bore your soul within His very being as He carried the Cross, even before the foundations of the world. As Jesus walked it out two thousand years ago so shall you. May you continue to walk until you hear His voice rise up from within you and say "it is finished!" Truly it will be soon.


PS. As I prayed deep into the wee hours last night I felt the inside of me was becoming the outside and it was glorious. I know of many that are being given signs that our glorification is near. The whole world today stands on tiptoe and groans for such!



Time stands still in my house. My brother in law comes to visit me about once a month and without fail, he is ever bemoaning the fact, he can't find a working clock in the house. I have six clocks that don't click a beat or move an increment and it seems almost maddening to Billy. He often can be heard muttering something about "Father Time" and his absence from my home (lol). Such is my life, as I travel within the confines of a four block area and a tank of gas last me months, and nary a fresh battery does a clock in my house see.

I truly do often feel like I'm standing still, as one day bleeds into the next and months pass by with only the snow, or lack there of, giving notice that a season has passed and a new one is here. This seems to have been my constant state for almost seven years with but a few interruptions thrown in, where I get out and let others know I am still amongst the living. When God spoke into my heart years ago that He was going to teach me the "Enochian way" He certainly wasn't kidding. LOL

As God first revealed these verses to me, taken from the Book of Jasher, I thought how romantic, having no idea of the reality of such a life.

And the soul of Enoch was wrapped up in the instruction of the Lord, in knowledge and in understanding; and he wisely retired from the sons of men, and secreted himself from them for many days ..... and he did in this manner for many years, and he afterward concealed himself for six days, and appeared to his people one day in seven; and after that once in a month, and then once in a year ...... and they searched but could not find him, for he had ascended into heaven. Jasher 3

The Bible in great simplicity paints the life of Enoch in one sentence that often leaves me spell bound as I can only imagine, yet still desire this grand patriarch's end. "Enoch walked with God; then he was no more, because God took him away" (Gen 5:24). What a glorious epitaph!

Anyway it seems I am about to embark on one of those rare escapes from "my seclusion", which by the way has become ever more appealing to me. Joian is paying me a visit and as the day (this Friday) gets closer I find a wondrous joy entering my heart. I know that with her visit I am presented an opportunity for a few days to serve one of the dearest of saints I know. It will be fun as I go touring with her and we view and enjoy the many and varied treasures of "Jackson Hole", described by many as one of the most beautiful and majestic places in all the earth. It is an amazement to me, that I never really see all this beauty around me until I can enjoy it as through the eyes of another. Surely, this is a kind of resurrected view where that which I am dead to, comes gloriously alive. How do you explains such but to say God's ways are beyond wondrous in their mystery!

Oh yeah, bring a watch Joian!
Note: While you're at it Joian, you might also bring some bells and pepper spray if you want to get out into the wild and see the animals. They just started posting these warnings on many of the wilderness paths in the valley.
Advisory !
In light of the rising frequency of human/grizzly bear confrontations, the Wyoming Department of Fish and Game is advising hikers, hunters, and fishermen to take extra precautions and be alert for bears while in the field. "We advise that outdoorsmen wear small bells on their clothing so as not to startle bears that aren't expecting them, and to carry pepper spray with them in case of an encounter."
It is also a good idea to watch out for fresh signs of bear activity. Outdoorsmen should recognize the difference between black bear and grizzly bear droppings. Black bear droppings are smaller and contain lots of berries and fur. Grizzly bear droppings have little bells in it and smell like pepper.


A couple posts back Florian and I were trading some comments and I gave an account of the one time in my life when I tried to prophesy. Tonight I am reminded of another of my faux paus. This has to do with another occurrence in this same church. It took place when they finally let me take the pulpit on a Sunday morning to give the message.

I studied and prepared for weeks and I was as a cat on a hot tin roof when I walked up to that stage to preach my first ever Church sermon. I mean I was anything thing but comfortable and little did I know that my lack of comfort would grow with each sentence of my well prepared message.

Now, you talk about a lack of anointing. Sheeesh! I put on a first rate demonstration of such, that Sunday. Today I can still, remember looking out into the congregation that morning and thinking how astounded these people are with my performance or lack there of. If I thought I was uncomfortable, they would have found hell more agreeable than having to sit through such a lackluster diatribe as I was giving. With sweat rolling off my brow and my shirt soaked I was searching hard through the crowd for just one receptive face. It was then that I caught a glimpse of my wife. She looked absolutely mortified as she gave me the slashing motion of "hand cutting throat" which we all know, means cut it off ....... cut it off now!

I went on to preach for twenty more minutes. LOL

Today I look back and stand in wonderment of God's grace as he kept me from being swallowed up by the organized church. I could preach powerfully in the jails and prisons and be immensely blessed with my work with different factions of societies outcasts, but in a church meeting or an organized church function things always seem to go south when I ministered. Truly, as with Moses it would take decades on the back side of the mountain before I would learn that I can do nothing in my own strength but only when I am weak does God move. So it was today as a I awoke from a few days where the Heavens seemed as brass and I languished in some harsh depression. I have been through enough of these seasons to know that oft before the dawn of newness of life come the darkest of times where we are emptied of a little more of self and a little more of our strength. I know many of you dear saints know of this pattern.

So this morning I awoke a with a new joy in my heart. However I was suffering a different kind of pain and it was an underlying discomfort that I knew would only find it's release by writing about my precious Jesus. This morn I really had a topic in mind but as I started to gather material I found my heart stirred toward a different direction. This was caused by a couple of messages I read by our friends Cardinal and Florian. Joian and I have always desired to find ways to allow our brethren to share so I love it when such opportunities arise as they do within the framework of the following message which I will begin with a quote from Wordsworth.

"We murder to dissect."

How often over the last year have I seen, with many, a desire to dissect God and more so Jesus with the end result being the belittling of the Atoning work of our Lord and Saviour. These confused souls divide Christ Jesus, to where they claim it is not "Jesus the Man" we are to cherish and give preeminence to. Do they not know, Christ Jesus is the "God Man" and the dissecting of "Jesus" from the "Christ", is surely but part of the procedure of the lowering of the Son of God and the elevating of one's own self. With this, does one not crucify Christ anew? I believe so as "they murder to dissect!" If there is one overriding principle that has been forefront from the beginning with regard to my theology, it would be "the preeminence of Jesus Christ." I can remember my good friend Mike, in whose home I first met Jesus, tell me early on, "it's all about Jesus." Those four words have stuck with me for thirty five years. They have served me well and I know of no greater measure of Truth, even today.

I believe one of the simplest ways to discern error and truth of a message or messenger is to see if there is preeminence given to Christ Jesus. Lately I have seen much undo emphasis being placed on our relationship with the Father by some that try to cut the Father from the Son. This downgrade of the Son and elevation of the Father at Jesus expense is accomplished with the seemingly innocuous exercise of dividing the Son of Man from the Son of God and also the separation of the Christ from the figure of Jesus. I even warned one our readers a couple weeks ago that this exercise is often the beginning of slippery slope that usually doesn't end well. From this point of separating, often the Cross and Atonement are frequently downsized and Jesus becomes little more than another Master alongside the Master's of the other world religions. I have seen it too often and it truly is heartbreaking to watch the first steps taken into complete apostasy. As we tread the last days of this age I often exclaim that it certainly doesn't take long for one to slip into darkness.

Now, I really don't worry too much whether someone takes more of the orthodox "Trinitarian" view or professes more "Oneness" as some time ago God spoke into my heart a profound word about trying to understand the mystery of the Godhead. He enlightened me with the thought of, "what is "one" compared to "three" or for that matter what is "nought" or "all." What are increments and what is the value of a number in the Kingdom of Heaven where the Infinite holds sway."
That did it for me!

Great logicians and mathematicians have shown us over and over that some things cannot be conceived and that there are truths that lie beyond that which we can prove. When ever logic becomes our god, then there is no God as our union is broken into two.

So it is with me, that I refuse to divide the Father from the Son and make them two. I believe only that the Father is Jesus outside the ages. and Jesus is the perfect expression of the Father within the cosmos. That makes it simple and simple is good as our Lord demonstrated such when He held a little child in his arms, and declared, "of such is the kingdom of Heaven."
Jesus also said, "I and the Father are one."

I occasionally peek in on a forum where Florian has been trading thoughts with a person that has for a couple of years tried to downgrade Jesus by separating Him from the Father. This message excerpt by our brother blessed me this morning and I believe it echos some of my thoughts on the Son of God.

"Our sonship has its origin in the Eternal Sonship of the Only Begotten One. Man was made in God's Image- this Image is Christ. He is the Blueprint and all things were made in Him.

When man fell he fell short of the Glory (Nature) of God and became blind to the Father's Heart and true Nature, while through the devils deception he developed a mythological 'god' in his carnal mind (that's the essence of sin, which is called the offense of the world/cosmos.) bringing forth works of lawlessness (another term for sin, which is called failure or missing the mark in the Greek.)

Man was absolutely blind to the Father, worshiping all kinds of idols. Only One Who lived in the fellowship with Father could bring the Truth about Him to us. All the prophets, angels and so on could not do it, for whatever message they brought mankind twisted and perverted it. That's why the Incarnation was necessary.

The Son entered our fallness, refusing to believe in our mythological deity, holding on to His knowledge of the Father's Heart, holding on to it even unto death. And when He rose He raised all humanity back into its original home- Father's Heart. When Christ returned in the power of Holy Spirit He came to take us where He is , in the Father, Who is our Home.

This wouldn't have been possible if Jesus was only a man like us, but is actually the whole point of Him coming in the flesh (our darkness), sharing His knowledge of Abba's Heart with us right in our mess.

We could post scriptures without end on this topic and I could post a whole book of scriptures that show that even in the OT there was a understanding of the Eternal Nature of the Son. But its not my point to convince anyone ........

In the end its all about Father's Love, and I have come to believe that Father is not a title, but the essential Being of God. Which in my opinion means He must have always have a Son. In other words there was never a time when He was just God, but He was always Father. I know I might get some flak for this but this is what has been revealed to me." (Florian)

Later on in the morning, after Florian's message, I would read this by Cardinal as she shares, in her unique way, the workings of Jesus Christ in us.

Another interesting hair -splitting is He told me when I first came to Him as I was reading the Word one day, that I was not actually learning these things as if thru my own mind's works, but rather that He in me was remembering who He was in the heavenly realm, and allowing me the co-knowledge of it as it came, thus He quickens our mortal bodies at the same time.

So we don't know what we will be like when He appears, but we know we will be like Him. He descended into us as we were formed in our mother's wombs and took on the same spirit of forgetfulness as we did to "sleep" in the dust realm of mortality. If He didn't then Christ in us would be fully manifested from birth, instead of a seed that has to be fed, watered and grown into maturity in us.

He also told me at that time, all these years ago, that He had "set" the time, just like we set an alarm clock, that He would begin to awaken more and raise up in us, in the 7th day, just as we get up off our beds. The Head has to raise up first as it's a physical impossibility to get up off your bed (out of the grave of this body) without your head raising up first.

As the HS had come upon Mary and she had brought forth the Son, so we would birth the Word also. He is literally turning us inside out, like a garment. (Card)

Jesus (Yah-shuah) is His name. "Yah-shuah" means Yah (the Father) is salvation. Yah incarnates to redeem us. The Father in Jesus comes and suffers our fate and I believe He does so even today. Oh, how He loves us, never to forsake us but sharing all that we experience.

In closing, I pray the next time you see someone trying hard to separate the Father from the Son by some vain reasoning or intellectual treatise you might ask, "does this person give preeminence to Jesus or is he or she downsizing our Lord and Saviour with their message?"
It's often subtle but the Spirit is capable of showing us when one is spiritually murdering to dissect. The carnal mind loves the business of dissecting and thus also, the death that comes with it.

Oh that we should learn the simplest truths of our walk; that when we embrace and give Jesus preeminence in our lives He gives to us in return, the unfathomable depths of the Father's love toward us. So, so simple yet so hidden from the proud and the wise of this world.

Yours in our sweet Lord Jesus,

Joian & Jack