THOUGHTS AFTER THE TRAJEDY



For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us. Rom 8:18

I participate on an internet forum made up of many like minded believers that have been awakened and drawn out of the slumbering orthodox churches. We often are called to discuss and share the deeper revelations of God with many visitors that have not quite rid themselves of the burial clothes of religious tradition. The religious and vain traditions that have captured so many are wrought not by Christ but by the minds of carnal men that fill the pulpits today as they build their own kingdoms. The good news is that many are hearing the call to come out of the harlot which bears no resemblance to the true Church which is today being prepared a pure and undefiled bride fit for Christ.

Rev 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

With that said these are a few copied responses (below) shared with a number of visitors and babes in Christ that still look to reform mankind by government and civil action. Many still think such events as the Virginia Tech tragedy can be remedied by such reforms as tougher gun control and more governmental protection. They often rail on the idea that God is in control and doing a greater and deeper work through prayer and preparation of sons that will soon set all of creation free from corruption and death. (see Romans 8)

These are the responses and messages shared by an insightful young man; Seth and myself with regard to the "Virginia tragedy." I pray some of you will see where our hope resides in these most perilous of times.


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This is indeed so terrible. We should weep for them and openly. These incidents can cause us to enclose ourselves, to become unapproachable. Let us not cling to this life. These tragedies we count as nothing compared to the powerful ages to come. Don't let this make us cynical or worried. This life is not for us, and this world is not remaining. Keep your eyes on the cross and let his strength be yours and his understanding be your understanding. May we all be forgiven.

Seth
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NOTHING, no not ANYTHING, will help the human experience but the Lord, the man, the spirit, Jesus Christ. No amount of legislation or dealings of men will do anything other than shift the sore to the other foot. Here is what I mean. Supposing there is some law enacted to restrict this or that. Indeed, it is effective in stopping a future shooting of that kind. However, those who regard the law as an example of government control, begin to feel threatened, they begin to take up arms to battle the government. They storm into a government building to shoot employees, when before they wouldn't have done that. It wasn't a school, it was a government building this time. The legislative dealings of men have done nothing to curb the rampant death of the flesh, going all the way back to the democracy in Greece, and all the way back to Cain slaying Able. Take away all the guns, people will get them anyway. Or people will stab each other to death. Take away all the knives, people will bludgeon each other to death, or burn each other to death, or ....

That is why Paul said that the sufferings of the present times are nothing compared to the ages to come. That is why God has promised through prophecy that Jesus would DESTROY the government of men. The reason it will be destroyed is because it is of no affect. Go ahead, pass laws, lobby congress, get involved in the affairs of this life. People have done that for centuries and centuries to control the carnal mind and bring it under reign. It will not change what is ordained: we must suffer wickedness for the Lord's sake, until he should come and remove it, and replace it with himself in all spheres of the human experience.

Seth
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........ "every wind that blows is fair for Heaven."

Exactly Seth. How many friends I have that take to every spectrum of every societal issue. Which one should I agree with? Can I play the hypocrite and agree with whom ever I am with?

Heck, I used to have strong views on many issues myself until the Lord called it "folly" and burned it out of me. Now I just tell my friends, I am too busy loving my God and my neighbor to get involved in such affairs.

All those societal discussions now to me are but a platform and an invitation to share of another King, another World, another Government, .............

Jack
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"to share of another King, another World, another Government, ............."

Exactly, that is what I tell people when I talk about how any war is contrary to the word of Christ to his disciples. But Seth, doesn't America have to fight wars and have an army to survive? Those are the affairs of another king, another Government, and another world. The word of God says what it says regardless of those affairs. Regardless of what this world needs to perpetuate itself, the word says what it says and will never change. That is why I have no confidence in government to solve the problems of the carnal mind.

Seth
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Some of us like Moses have witnessed the burdens of mankind and have taken it upon ourselves to deliver by the hand of flesh .............. to no avail.

Like Moses we now spend much time alone on the backside of the mountain where God rids us of our own abilities and our own efforts till we can only groan in travailing prayer that His fullness be manifested within us.

......and again like Moses there is coming a day when at God's beckon and by His Word the works of deliverance will be laid out for us to walk in .............. not a moment too late ............ not a moment too soon.

Psa 46:2 Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed, and though the mountains be carried into the midst of the sea

Psa 112:7 He shall not be afraid of evil tidings: his heart is fixed, trusting in the LORD.

Mat 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.


Lift up your heads and "see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man. For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings." Heb 2:9,10

God is in perfect control of this world and it's events through Christ Jesus. If not we should be standing most precarious and we know that is not true .............. for He is the Solid Foundation, a Strong Tower and the Great Mountain upon which all kingdoms rise and fall.

For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities--all things have been created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. Coll 1:16,17

Today is the Day of Salvation and His Coming. Some will wring their hands and need be prayerfully and tenderly carried by those that know God is in control and yet suffers His purpose with us.

even so come Lord Jesus!

Jack



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